In addition, the grammar was really poor, which for me is always a turnoff.
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Really didnāt get too much of a negative vibe from it. I believe the author may be a veteran of a bunch of Kickstarter or similar products. Itās great for everyone to be a little cynical and have the mindset of a realist for these types of projects. There are certainly a lot of unknowns. Still, If only 85% of the capabilities were ever delivered and the unit was six months late, I would still be happy with my purchase. Everyone else has their own threshold. If immediate gratification is the most important issue, that point may have already passed. (BTW: Iām an engineer who is very comfortable with Math/Logic and have far, far less than average communication and verbal scores. Treat me kindly, for I know not what I say)
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@ jdodds If you are happy with late fall, can I have your place in line?
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After the āIād be happy if I had it land in my shop by late fallā, I think you missed the
āWell, proportionate to my place in line anyhowā part of that post. 
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Hey, if you donāt like the risk or the terms of the deal, donāt participate. That is the wonderful thing about a free society, your money is your own to spend however you choose. Iām sure that you will be able to go out and buy a GF in a couple of years without having to wait, so you have options.
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I have to say that the most frustrating thing of this crowdfunding has been that @dan called it a ā3d laser printerā, and people that donāt know how computer controlled lasers (or milling) work started throwing their wallets at the screen and impulse bought it based on magic.
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Even more annoying were those who when you tell them about it, they start heckling you about how āitās not an additive process and therefore not 3-d printer blah blah blah blah, same as all other laser cutters and more blah blah blah blah!ā and donāt bother to even learn anything more about it & see how it is actually much different from other ones.
Whatever, shake 'em off like dandruff, I say.
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Donāt wanna wait? Get a refund.
Willing to wait? Complaining wonāt help.
Real bankers donāt have the option to get a refund available to them. (And, by the way, most crowdfunders donāt have the option either.)
If youāre a fan of crowdfunding I donāt see how you could have believed you were placing a pre-order. Even if you were dazzled by the slick video, you still shouldnāt have expected your laser cutter to ship in December, or even within three weeks of December.
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Perfect word. Cranky. Thatās the feeling I was getting, too.
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[quote=ādan_berry, post:47, topic:1352ā]
ā3d laser printerā
[/quote]ā¦This has been the description of the Glowforge since we all began this adventureā¦and Dan has said numerous times that it is the description given to the Glowforge by other peopleā¦not by Dan or the team. I donāt even know what to call it when I try to tell someone about it because it is rather an enigma. OKā¦someone come up with an accurate description of the Glowforge? A-sort-of-kind-of-printer-thing-that-uses-a-laser-but-cuts-things-out. Sorry, I digressed from the topic.
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Hmmm. Well letās see. A laser cutter / engraver doesnāt assemble 3D magic. But it sure makes the parts that we can assemble into amazing things.
And typically an actual 3D printer doesnāt assemble anything of any particular instance either. Unless we (you guessed it probably) get involved. It looks like we are the Droid we are looking for.
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The word print comes from the latin word premere, which means to press, so it has nothing to do with additive creation. However, these days, āprintā has started to become synonymous with hitting a button and something you designed gets spit out.
If you think about other pressing machines, they usually use a die to imprint and cut materials. As glowforge is accomplishing a very similar procedure, only using light, Id say that Im actually OK with this term. Comparatively speaking some 3d printers arent really āpressingā anything either, they are only melting/bonding, so it could be a more accurate description for the glowforge in this case.
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A few years ago I attended a working group dealing with cyber security. The chair and several senior members spent a full hour trying to come up with a good name for the working group. Apparently they wanted it to stand out in Pentagon reports. Told them I would be back when they were ready to discuss technical issues. (just poking fun)
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Personally, Iām fine with 3D printerā¦but itās interesting to me and I enjoy reading others thoughts about it.
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A rose is still a rose by any other nameā¦ I understand that the description can be a little misleading, but itās kinda hard not to see that itās just a laser. burns stuff. cuts stuff. they can call it Susan for all I care as long as i can burn stuff. and cut stuff lol 
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Shirley you must be joking.
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