Vent Specifics

Cracked tube guy here. Here’s my experience from 3 separate setups at 2 different makerspace locations (same org, just found a better building across town):

Setup 1: Venting directly outside with an exterior louvered vent under an overhang
Setup 2: Shared venting (with a bathroom) with a blocking diverter and a blast gate
Setup 3: Dedicated venting with a blast gate and a louvered vent without an overhang

Setup 1 (old space) used flexible 4" dryer tube between the laser and blower, then solid ducting to an existing exhaust port on the wall (intended as kitchen exhaust), and worked OK…until the winter of 2013 brought a super-hard freeze (by our standards: -18F) to our area. Even though the exterior louvers were closed and the space was heated (50s-60s when no one was there), enough cold air came in to freeze the coolant water in the tube.

After this, we added the blast gate (similar to http://www.rockler.com/4-stablegate-blast-gate), which sat between the blower fan and the laser.

Setup 2 (initial setup in the new space) had the same dryer line running between laser and blower, then switched to solid ducting to run to a ceiling vent that went to a common exhaust worked well for the laser, but not so well for the bathroom. Even though we made sure the diverter was doing its best at keeping the exhaust airflow from coming into the bathroom, it still smelled like fresh hot laser in there. I can’t recommend having a laser share an exhaust with anything, even if you have a good diverter.

Setup 3, the current setup, returned the laser to a dedicated exhaust line, put a better louvered vent on the exterior wall, switched ducting from using any floppy dryer tube to solid aluminum flex duct, and has the blast gate after the blower on the exhaust route. Some water got blown into the exterior vent during a particularly heavy storm, which the gate prevented from flowing further into the blower. We’re still trying to figure out whether we need to change this, or are fine, since that type of storm almost never happens (we’ll end up fixing it, but other projects have taken precedence). This setup works pretty well so far.

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Great feedback - thank you

Interesting. Given that the GF is supposed to have a closed loop cooling system, I wonder if it will ship with cooling water already in it? Not asking the question but just thinking out loud. Live in the WV mountains. Wouldn’t want a delivery in January unless the acceptable storage temp was at least -10F.

I suspect the closed loop will be filled and not necessarily with water.

Since our shop also contains a large selection of wood working tools, we have decided to move our GF into the office, and run some of our venting out to our sawdust collection system. Our collection actually gathers outside the building. Granted, this will likely reduce the moisture problem since we have a complete shop between the elements and the GF, my suggestion would be a manual blast gate. You already have to be present to run the GF, what’s one more step in the process to open the gate?

The cooling system will be shipped filled. Mark’s been testing coolants, so it may not be H20; I don’t know where he wound up.

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BitB - thank you for the link. I think that will work nicely for what I am looking to do.

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Marius Hornberger, a great young maker in Germany, has a good video on homeade blast gates. You’ll find other videos about shop ventilation on his channel including home made blowers.

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Looks liks it would be a very easy first project for the glowforge. Laser cut blast gate.



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You’ll need to add some way to attach the hose. Lots of work for a $5 part on Amazon.

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Just need to glue in some pvc or other material ends maybe even a union on either side and the nice part about cutting it is you can fit it easily to an odd ball size system if you already had a shop setup or different sizes on either side.

Cool plans.

Where in NJ are you located? I also purchased a GF Pro and line in Essex county! I put my location on the google map someone set up on this forum.

I haven’t personally tried these yet, but I think Our Glowforges deserve something like this: http://www.rockler.com/ivac-pro-4-in-blast-gate-starter-pack. Don’t you? The starter kit comes with 2 gates, so I guess I’d want to use the other one to suck fumes from my 3d printer :wink:

I am down in Mercer County

Ryan, What is the link for that Google map? I am in Somerset County, would love to see where everyone is. I can’t wait to get my Glowforge.

Hey GlowForgers,

I started a Google map so GlowForge supporters706 can share where they are and see where others are too!

Edit: I started the map and included my referral link. I would really appreciate if the person who keeps editing my link would stop doing that.

I added myself to get the ball rolling. :smile:

Regards,

MakerBlock

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Very cool - I just added in my “pin”

That is pretty cool - expensive but if I was going with a permanent setup, might be worth it. Thanks for posting.

Water would be a bad coolant choice in my climate. Especially for shipping. I don’t expect my storage temps to go below freezing once it arrives, but I’d hate to worry about my laser freezing if something goes wrong with heating in the space I’m using. I would imagine propylene glycol could be switched out in most applications where water would be used.

Our pumps are up to it, but I’ve seen at least one chiller shut down because it couldn’t handle the extra viscosity.

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