The statement isn’t misleading though. That is the amount sold in 30 days. Just because someone canceled it doesn’t reduce the amount sold in those 30 days (unless they canceled in those same 30 days), it reduces the amount sold now, but if we’re going by those numbers we should also include all sales up to the current date.
Also, if they did that I’d be willing to bet the numbers would be even bigger. I expect the number of sales from the end of those first 30 days until now outnumber the number of canceled orders.
On that note, if it were a ticker that showed all sales from the launch of the crowdfunding until today, then yes, it should go down whenever an order is canceled as well as going up whenever a new order comes through.
Wow, just unbelievable. Ya know it’s OK to complain about the same thing as everybody else. Don’t have to work so hard to find something unique. Frustration is not a competitive sport.
Of COURSE it is. If you buy something, then return it, that doesn’t mean you never bought it You DID buy it. To say it was sold is 100% true.
You seem to have dug awfully hard to find something to gripe about, and that’s fine, but you’ve missed the mark on this one. As amazing as the machine is, and it really is amazing, there are certainly legitimate things to complain about. Allow me to suggest today’s topic of dismay be brought back to… let’s see… what do I want the most… Oh! How about “Hey! What ever happened to precision double-sided cutting via head camera that was promised?”
Why is it always referred to as the 30 campaign when the spreadsheet counts 33 days? Was it 24th Sept to 26th October inclusive? Was the $27.9M figure for just the first 30 days of that or the total?
After the 30 day pre-order ended, they didn’t change the ticker right away. They had another $1,000,000 in sales a few days after, before they changed it.
How many? I haven’t seen anything that showed that number. I did see a post by Dan where he said that post-campaign sales far outweigh the cancellations though.
I think it’s just the frustration that leads people to find fault like there is a reward for it.
For (almost) everyone who has one in their hands, the tune changes.
I don’t know what the real number is, but from reading other forums and gathering the anecdotal data, I have seen less than 100 (not including the countries that cannot be shipped to).
Normally, you will see people boosting that they cancelled (and wave it like a flag on the FB forums).
Suspect that there have been a lot more cancellations than are publicly admitted. On any particular day immediately after an announcement the numbers are probably small. Technically the small numbers quoted may be accurate if you look at time in discrete increments. It’s not a run on the bank in any stretch of the imagination and additional sales have probably made up for any cancellations. But lost referrals show there have been a lot of early cancellations.
Now the question on post pre-order campaign numbers is how many of the cancellations came from those numbers and how many post pre-order campaign orders off set cancellations in the 30 Days.
I stand corrected. Clearly my view on this is easily dismissed. And yes I am frustrated, actually even quite angry at the amount of B.S and shiftiness I have suffered through from Glowforge but not necessarily looking to dig up something unique to complain about but when I last saw this during my check to see if I had lost any more referrals or if by any miracle the estimated March 2’nd shipping date for my day 3 pro order had changed this jumped out at me as yet another thing that didn’t sit right with me regarding overall honesty and transparency, especially considering that I have lost 4 out 11 referrals which were all gained during the 30 day campaign, which strongly suggests that a huge number of orders from those 30 days were cancelled.
Anyways, I see that I was incorrect in my rationalizing of this. Now back to feeling generally strung along, dishonestly dealt with and very disappointed in the latest 5-6 month delay as people who ordered a week after me receive their pro orders.