Thats been my experience.
One thing that may make Kickstarterās success rate higher is that they require a working prototype before a product can go on the site, while Indiegogo does not. That probably means you will see more cases of people failing to take the laws of physics into account (like Solar Roadways) or outright scams on Indiegogo.
Iāve got one on Indiegogo and even though it seems pretty simple, itās behind schedule and updates are few and far between.
I remember that laser razor thing that got canceled on kickstarter because they faked the prototype. I mean, not faked in the sense of cgi, but the prototype wasnāt representative of what the product was supposed to be. And before they got canceled, they had loads of backers.
Itās not a fair assessment, but I automatically think someone funding on indiegogo is doing it because they canāt pass the more stringent requirements of kickstarter, which makes me more skeptical and suspicious. I know there are other reasons why someone chooses one over the other, but itās always in the back of my mind.
I think thatās where Iām heading. Probably no more Indiegogo projects - Iām looking to lose about $2500 on a couple of projects that look like theyāre going south.
yeah I was in on the skarp laser razor debacle. I feel for the people who followed them over to indiegogo
I pretty much avoid indie gogo, just because if the project doesnāt get enough funding to be successful I can think of better ways to throw away money. Kickstarter requires the minimum be met. so you can judge a bit of waht you are getign into by how accurate you think the goal is.
Not a terrible many failed projects on KS yet. Some I expect to under deliver or fail soon.
Iām here because someone didnāt own up to their failure very well and just ran from their project and deleted their account. But one of the backers posted a referral link here. So even a failure/scam can have good results.
Skarp! Thatās what it was. I didnāt realize they were still crowdfunding. So do the creators on indiegogo get the money regardless of what happens? That seems silly. If you didnāt raise enough money to do x, then raising 40% of what you need for x wonāt make it happenā¦
I was in on that too, but I thought they got canned on Kickstarter for not having a working prototype.
Yep.
Indiegogo allows āflexibleā funding, i.e. they get whatever people contribute. But not all projects go that way. There seem to be more semi-charitable projects there; with exceptions, it seems kickstarter is much more of a pre-order shop at this point.
(And yeah, even on kickstarter I often think āgeez, that could not possibly work without repealing physical lawsā but usually on projects that are quite clearly not going to be funded.)
I visit the GF forums multiple times most days, yet Iām still finding threads that I havenāt seen before.
Here is my Kickstarter activity: https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1159572927
Itās mostly board games with a few other things thrown in. Only one has failed to fund, and I really only backed that one because my friend was involved with the company. Most have delivered.
There are two game companies, Gamelyn Games and Roxley Games where I will pretty much auto-back anything that they decide to Kickstart. Both have been phenomenal in their communication and delivery. The latest Roxley is delayed a bit, but only because they didnāt anticipate the run being so large, and so they only ordered one set of molds for the plasticā¦ the molds wore out and they had to delay in order for new molds to be produced and delivered.
One of the worst was the rollable 4-sided dice, but he had to go out of pocket and delivered as promised. In the end, sadly, Iām not happy with the dice, but they are interesting all the same. Another was the Mana Pool Podcast. He had no idea what he was doing, and every week on the podcast it was another sob story about the troubles he had (believe it or not an issue he had was that he couldnāt do the printing of the labels himself, so there was this whole process of getting the names/addresses to his friend who would print the labels. Anyway, it took a little over a year for him to deliver on that KS. The last bad one I want to point out is the Earbuds Podcast documentary. It funded in February of 2014, and was supposed to be delivered by December of 2014. I only got the download and it will finally be delivered in November of this year. So over two years, since funding and nearly two years late on delivery.
Iāve also backed a couple of things through other sources than KS. One of my favorite bands, Save Ferris, is finally making a new EP, so I backed that through a music crowdfunding site. I backed a video game through a site called Fig.
I also pre-ordered (post crowdfunding but pre-manufacturing) the M3D Micro 3D printer. I got it a few months after it was promised and it did not deliver as promised. It was supposed to be a 3D printer that you didnāt have to do anything in terms of settings, calibration, etcā¦ It was supposed to print both ABS and PLA flawlessly. I got two ABS prints successfully (a D6 and a Meeple), and those same two prints are about the only thing that I could print reliably. Anything bigger than about an inch would typically fail or have flaws. I ended up selling it, getting nearly what I paid for it, including the filament!
Woohooo my Trinus 3d printer has arrived! Backed it almost a year ago, merry Christmas for me. Now only if I could laser cut an enclosureā¦
www.trinus3d.com Now a bit of assembly and Iām ready to produce some failed prints!
Nice! Please keep us posted on how you like it.
Yes please. There are a few smallish 3D printers in this price range Iām looking at.
still waiting on mine. so like everyone else said let us know how it goes
Okay, so I finally had time to assemble the Trinus. Instructions are super clear, if you ever done Ikea or Lego, youāre good.
The only small issue I had is that the PCB housing at the back is about 2mm shorter than the gap between the two Y gantries, so I could only screw in one side. Itās rigid enough, so Iām not too bothered.
After the assembly the first print took about 5min to start, which included choosing a file from Thingiverse.
Itā humming away happily now.
Wow, that looks so cool. I would have thought it would have cost much more too. Have fun this Christmas.
Yeah, sadly the Lily is no more. Not particularly upset though, as I have seen far more about drones since backing that one long ago, and am no longer impressed by what the Lily offered. But I never backed out because I hadnāt bothered to pick up any other drone yet anyhow.
But yeahā¦ there wasnāt collision avoidance developed, so most of the intended applications would not have worked. And the simple āFollow meā should be able to be added to most drones without much issue.