I have a strong suspicion that the developers are paying serious attention to the Pro right now, and are perhaps panicking a bit too. /speculation
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I am going to back to the muse topic. I order the GF Pro cant wait to get it. But i am thanking about getting the Muse just because of the rotary attachment. One of my problems I have with the muse is the lack of information/ forums for the muse laser. I cant seem to find any videos or examples besides their promo video and the tested video for this laser cutter.
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@jamesdhatch they have said that they are shipping at the same time, however they have not shown any units openly that have the features of the Pro. They had beta basic units on the forums and still announced two delays (June moved to December, and Dec moved to July). Since there have not been any open posts about Pro features/units, it leads me to develop some scepticism about both basic and pro units shipping concurrently. @Dan has the benefit of my doubt, but some comments/evidence about Pro features/units in their office or in the wild would be nice. I am on the same page as @MikeH.
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If they are having problems with the Pro or are just not ready to actually make the unit itself, perhaps they will decide to release just the Basic unit at first and try to finish up the Pro later. If so, I hope they will alert us Pro buyers to the possibility when it becomes likely and not just wait for the July deadline.
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I’ve been looking for an actual review for the Muse for awhile. It does not appear like anyone has a Muse yet.
From what I’ve read online, it seems like FSL makes good machines. IMHO, it looks like the Muse is just a repackage version of there Hobby Laser with a camera and LCD touchscreen. Which isn’t a bad thing at all. There Hobby Lasers have good reviews. The biggest complaint about the company that I saw was there customer service was horrible, but it seems like they fixed that.
My biggest grip with the Muse is that it needs an external water chiller and air line. I don’t have the space to have extra equipment or a water bucket.
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It seems a little strange that there aren’t some Muse user reviews on YouTube yet - I think Tested has the only video, aside from FSL themselves. There doesn’t seem to be any mention of of a review on the 3rd party forums either, other than derision that the E-stop button is on a touch screen.
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You & me both. I hate it when it’s shipping time that they announce the delay vs. in advance. But a 3rd delay would say an awful lot about how well they can project the work (not well if there is another one) and whether they understand the scope of what work remains or if they’re subject to unknown unknowns in addition to the known unknowns that I’d expect contingency plans had been made to alleviate. I honestly don’t believe July is the date. It could be earlier although I don’t expect so. It just feels like “add another 6 months” and although they’re making some really great strides in the software and we’re seeing good things from the pre-release folks, I don’t know enough about the details to feel confident that it’s not going to be later.
I believe that Dan thinks it’s going to be July-Aug but I expect he thought June and December were going to be the dates too.
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^THIS! This, so very much.
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There is a photo of many boxed Muse’s in the back of a truck… Have you seen the page on the FSL website offering significant discounts if you cancel an order from another vendor! Must have large margins if they can offer that…
GF for me as for personal use but could understand people who switch if they need for a business. Especially with Muse features such as the rotational engraving and extra depth.
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Or are they only empty boxes, if they where shipping them by the truck load they should have hit YouTube by now
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Seems a very underhand business technique to me. Looks deliberate to steal some of the GF orders, which is a bit rich since they seem to be very late hitting their own deliveries dates.
I don’t see why GF can’t be fitted with a forward pointing head to allow a rotary attachment to be placed in front of the gantry. It should be nearly 7" deep there, plenty of room for a full sized rotary table.
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That is s great idea @palmercr! Hope @dan is working on it or will add it to the Hopper! Maybe the magnetic head have two sets of pins so the head can be rotated 90 degrees!!! Or maybe I will get out my drill and add them once my warranty expires!!! :-)))
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That is an amazing idea. I hope it gets hopperized!
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Maybe more than 7", since the box is a touch over 8". (Hmm, if you got something that hooked onto the gantry itself, you could convert Y motion into rotary motion mechanically. Or maybe not…)
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I like the idea, but in that configuration the Z axis is the functional A axis, and is limited to 1/2"
So all you would be able to engrave is a stripe 1/2" wide or less.
A better fix would be to cut a slot in the bottom of the case just big enough to accommodate a small rotary mechanism… if construction configuration allows it.
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I think it can be done with the current hardware:
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Happens all the time in the software industry - seems pretty similar to a competitive upgrade. Phone companies, heating oil services, etc all offer discounts to new customers converting from another vendor.
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Cable TV, banks, etc.
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In the hopper! 
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I figured it would be just a matter of time before they went this route. I don’t see that offer on their site (it’s far from iPhone-friendly and lots is cut off), but it doesn’t surprise me too much if that’s the case.
edit - found mention of this in a FB post. No firm numbers since it depends on what you’ve ordered here, but it says “at least hundreds”.
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