The Pixel does have a good F stop and optics. In addition to those, Google has done a good job on the camera software with the Pixel.
If I was to compare it to an Apple, I think it meets or beats the 6s camera (maybe even the 6s Plus), but the 7 series beats the Pixel.
My primary phone is the Windows 950 XL and it does very well with HDR enabled.
Anyone seen the Kodak Ektra? Apparently itâs actually making it to the states (the last model was discontinued before they made it that far. Interesting specs for a phone (camera-first phone, as they call it.)
I havenât seen this yet. Weird since I live in Rochester, the home of Kodak, so these thing usually make the local news.
Iâll have to ask my friends that work at Kodak about it.
itâs mediocre at best and has very little to do with the original kodak brand. absolutely skip it.
Sooner or later, stuff ceases to be a phone with a built-in camera, and it becomes a camera with a built-in phone.
Flight of the Conchords invented this years ago!
I think that was actually what they were going for.
ish. i mean real cameras are going to be ahead for a long time into the foreseeable future, so i think weâll always be in an arms race. the next big one is zoom / optical zoom, i think, in terms of quality improvements (360-degree / VR cameras offer an interesting trick, but the quality on all the affordable ones is pretty bad).
the real problem with this is that itâs just riding the coattails of an older brand. if they updated this again, i think itâd be the one to beat:
yea, people get very caught up in the MP count, but my of 6MP Canon 10D still takes better pictures than most the 15+ MP camera phones out there if for no other reason the optics are better.
for sure, also sheer sensor size is another big one. the smaller the sensor, the less light that gets to each pixelâŚ
Me too!! Me too!!
And how about âŚ
Iâve got a Glowforge (outline sketch of one in the middle) ⌠Whatâs your super power?
Should be easy enough to use a touchscreen LCD and add the cellular radio to a ProDSLR, right? 
They already put wi-fi in many of them, and for once, removable and upgradable storage would be nice. LOL. Then Facebook and Instagram can develop apps that can handle RAW images⌠Haha!!
Iâve owned 13 digital cameras so far, but Iâve been in a holding pattern for the past few years. When I evaluate a new candidate, it has to pass three tests before I look more closely: 1) itâs pocket-able, 2) has a large sensor (1" min), and 3) has low min f-stop for potential shallow depth of field (f2 or less). Iâm waiting for the sweet spot that combines these features with a phone.
too bad the CM10 doesnât have a phone - itâs LTE-data only. other than though itâs pretty close to your required specs, though i think youâre a bit pie in the sky to demand all of that plus f/2 or less.
iâve given up on the idea for now, but i have an rx100 and a ricoh gr that i use when i want to feel portable.
Yes, the RX100 is the latest one Iâve been using.
My canon 5dmkIV has wifi, touch screen including focus management in live mode and lots of folks make remote triggers via wifi, Bluetooth, Lora, and a few that use cellular (although that is complicated due to the insanity of cell data plans)
well, at this point in time itâs silly to add cell data to an advanced large camera in my opinion. mostly because we still donât have a good grasp of sharing data plans across multiple devices. for now, having wi-fi is enough for uploading quick snaps in the field through your phone (and if your camera doesnât have wi-fi, those eye-fi cards work very well).
eventually theyâll probably all have advanced radios that you can pair to your cell plans, but that wonât happen without a big shakeup in philosophy among the large carriers.
And more importantly full remote control. Being able to place a camera up high on a post, or whatever and shoot tethered via WiFi is hugeâŚ
And the less that light differs from the light on the surrounding pixels. As far as I can tell, all the small-sensor high-count cameras are well beyond the diffraction limit of their optics â dunno if the processing algorithms take that into account.
This is definitely true.
Full Frame digital sensors outresolved even the most expensive lenses, 15 years ago. Even 8MP APS sized sensors did that.
So now comparing against smaller pocket camera and cell phone sensors that are also 8MP, or 12MP, they have WAY smaller pixels and tighter pixel pitch to make that happen. Theyâre way beyond the abilities of the optics used on those phones and cameras. The issue is, the smaller sensors with high resolutions tend to have issues with noise. They do have onboard software to handle both correcting sharpness and cleaning up image noise.