Yes @dan has always been very guarded in what he promises. What I don’t understand is how the web page I ordered from came to be, as that described a 3D laser with 1000 dpi resolution that could be pre-ordered for a discount and would be delivered starting December 2015. There was no mention of crowd funded development. It looked like a developed product that simply needed some orders upfront to kick start the volume production. Three months would just about long enough to order all the components and start a production line if it was a fully developed product with approvals in place. Did Dan not proof read it before launch or was it a deliberate con?