Discussion of July Update, Part II (latest)

Yes but @RogueAce was speculating that companies might order several and so hide some of the shipping volume, so that would likely be more that £5K.

that’s MY company’s limit. and for our office. others in my company have much higher limits. other companies may have much higher limits. we could easily have ordered 2 basics at $5k.

While it is possible that there are a few large quantity orders, I find it unlikely.

It’s also possible that GF is trolling the forum participants and those that put their name on the spreadsheet, and quietly shipping them by hundreds each day to people who don’t speak up. I also find that unlikely. :slight_smile:

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Yes but a hidden order of two wouldn’t skew the stats significantly.

point missed.

just because the managing principal of my office could only have bought two on his credit card doesn’t mean another company couldn’t have done more. or that someone else in my company couldn’t have done more.

just as your anecdotal evidence that your company couldn’t have gotten an order done in a day doesn’t necessarily extrapolate, evidence the the guy who runs one office in my company could only do a couple doesn’t extrapolate. every company is different.

the point i was making is that not every company requires layers of documentation that take days/weeks to purchase at scale. what scale that happens at depends completely on the company and on the level it’s being purchased from at that company.

now, do i believe there were 20 companies purchasing 10-15 machines each on day one? nope. but i won’t just dismiss the overall idea that there were at least a few organizations that may have ordered multiple machines on day one. only GF knows if and how many that would account for.

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There goes my “trolling” theory…

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Yeah, same here. We’re trendsetters! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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As has been said before, we have limited data, glowforge isn’t interested in sharing more, so there’s little value in talking ourselves in circles about it. I just wanted to point out something Dan said in the past about PRU’s, that some had gone to companies and institutions that don’t post. This could also be true of some first day orders too or could be entirely irrelevant. None of this changes our current situation, so with that, I’m going to saunter over to some of the build threads. Cheers.

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When I first started in the real world of work (insurance company) I had $2M of signing authority but could place hardware orders up to $10M and I was only 22 yrs old! Having worked stocking shelves at a supermarket as my only other real job before I was flabbergasted.

But I couldn’t buy a $5,000 laptop that wasn’t on the approved hardware list. (Got around that one by ordering the laptop as a whole pile of repair parts - probably cost the company twice as much & I had to put it together but it got me around what seemed to be a stupid rule.) :smiling_face:

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Hah, amusingly enough the company I work for is an Insurance company. I work in IT in the company headquarters.

Thankfully I keep myself a peon without any real responsibility. Much happier that way. =P

To my knowledge we don’t have any specific approved hardware lists, but we do have preferred vendors and standing contracts, so it amounts to a similar situation.

We did find out (through a long and humorous tale, which sadly would divulge too much information to tell) that the corporate account cards have no real limit on them. Or if there is it’s high enough that no one has ever hit it. That’s including managers who have booked hotel rooms for a team of people in Vegas for conferences.

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Gee, having done my upgrade order on 10/20/2015 I guess I have a while to wait.

Or does my basic order not the uprade order determine my place in line? I’d have to go back to emails to figure out when that day was.

I rather figure I have a while to wait yet. only good thing is where it is going to sit is NOT available yet. so there is that to console me.

According to the email I received from GF one week ago, if you upgrade. that does not affect your place in line. Your original order date has precedence.

You can check your purchase history online to see what your original order date was. Don’t need to look through emails.

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I guess they just amend the data on the order. so mine says 10/20/2015 There isn’t an entry for the original basic order.

i ordered the basic then upgraded to the pro at a later date. so I’m still gonna be wating a bit. I am so glad I did the pro though. I have come up with so many long things I want to make. :slight_smile:

Thanks for the reply.

I believe you can always use the date listed on https://glowforge.com/account?tab=purchase_history

yes that is the date I’m using. in case anybody else rolls past and reads these few messages. :slight_smile:

Been there myself :smiling_face: Had a guy use his corporate card to fund a PC hardware & peripherals business. Never missed paying the charges or anything but providing the working capital for his side business was not why we gave him the card :grinning:

We used to carry 2 business cards & titles. Outsiders wanted to deal with people who had “the authority to do a deal” and couldn’t wrap their head around a Director having $10M of authority or an AVP at $25M. So everyone got title bumps for their public business cards but used another set for internal meetings so other company folks wouldn’t think we had the $50M authority levels :smiling_face:

When you’re dealing with portfolios in the hundred billion neighborhood, 10 million is loose change. Never gonna get a finance or capital committee to waste their time looking at those. In retrospect that’s probably how the government works and we know how that turns out :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

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Jeez…

And here, part of the reason my former employer is former, is because any time someone needed to make travel arrangements they had to clear balance off one of 3 corporate cards in the company with $5k limits. Bahahaha! My own personal card has a 10k limit for cryin’ out loud and good thing too because they often fell through on making arrangements on short notice and I’d end up covering it.

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At least this way you get the points/Cashback on your card :slight_smile: that can add up.

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Amen to both these observations.
One of the first points I make with new Clients is ‘Transparency is your Friend

I then follow that up with an explanation of why it is always better to ‘Under-Promise and Over-Deliver than Over-Promise and Under-Deliver’ (which, IMHO it seems :glowforge: are very hot on achieving as much as possible from a technological angle but lack on the Delivery side of things)

From a Business Development POV these 2 are essential at building brand strength.

Unfortunately when it comes to Transparency if it is not company policy then you cannot expect to control speculation.

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@dan, maybe this has been covered before but is it possible to have a page or weekly email that shows units shipped to date by model?

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