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[chris1]

@jbmanning5

Yes, it’s a giant conspiracy against Palmer. You figured it out.

That is not a claim that I made. Please respect the community guidelines, particularly “remember to criticize ideas, not people”.

@jbmanning5

I have zero interest in debating this with you when you seem to want to argue just for the sake of arguing. Again, feel free to read Dan’s statement - and maybe reread it. There is a distinct difference between what I posted and what was posted elsewhere.

I actually really dislike arguing. This thread is stressing me out and I want to let it go… I was on my way to bed and foolishly decided to come back and post something along the lines of “I’m sorry I got into a bad mood”, but I got pulled in again. The replies here just seem so illogical to me that letting them stand is maddening. You’re telling me to read Dan’s statement again does not change the facts. I have read it. He discusses two hypothetical scenarios that only add to the confusion because neither of them match what happened here:

@dan

Consider the fact “You can buy a single print from the catalog and then print it multiple times”. It’s fine to share this information in the context of the question “what are some of the shortcomings of the catalog”. It’s not OK if someone asks “how can I save money when purchasing catalog designs”.

The apparent context was that @palmercr said “Actually the opposite is true” in response to “there’s no way to download the catalog files”, which was in the context of an innocent question, “I can’t figure out how to save the file in inkscape to personalize it. Is that possible and how is it done?” They were not asking how to steal IP, they were asking how to use what they understood to be a feature of the product. You and Dan seem to be saying that there is a required context test for violating rule 2.8.4. Since nobody in that thread was asking how to steal anything, it seems like the context test was not met.

I still don’t understand what @palmercr did to violate rule 2.8.4 a second time. I don’t see how applying a fair standard would mean that what he posted in the “Can you edit catalog file” thread was any more “encouragement” than what has been posted by others. Perhaps there were other posts, or PMs, that we’re not seeing, that went further. Or perhaps it’s that the rules are applied more strictly to people who are a general nuisance.

I don’t think I can possibly say what is bothering me any more clearly, and I ran out of anything useful to add a long time ago, so I’ll wrap it up and promise not to post any more on this thread. Tomorrow I will use my Glowforge to make something nice and share a picture of it. And maybe it will stop raining so I can use my barbecue.