Very first use of Magic Canvas.
Nice. AI generated images are a deep, interesting topic that has a lot of nuance. I’m sure your opinion will mature with time. For now, though, your reaction is pretty common. I’d suggest googling “legality of AI image generation” and grabbing a drink and a snack. It’ll be a while, this issue is much larger than Glowforge’s tiny corner of the internet.
How is this legal? I asked my son what he wanted to see and he said “Star Wars” so I typed it in.
See above, re: google. First, you’d have to identify what laws are being broken, and in what jurisdiction – it gets really murky when you consider local vs international judicial standards. When you know the answer here let us know, because it’s not as clear as you might think.
Glowforge says I can use any image that is generated commercially.
Yeah I heard something about that, but I haven’t seen anything in writing. Glowforge’s lawyers are pretty on point about stuff, so I suspect that there is a clause in there that says "it’s no on us if you break the law with any use of the Glowforge ", like every other aspect of using your laser. If you used the Glowforge to write threats on a sign and brought it to a presidential rally, you’d be in trouble there too. Same kind of thing, don’t break the law – with your laser or not.
So, off I go to sell Storm Trooper designs… SMH.
Yeah that would be unwise. I doubt any assurance that Glowforge might give you would protect you from a clear copyright/trademark dispute. Tying this issue to the AI image generator is a red herring – this sort of issue isn’t unique to the magic canvas feature.
Plus, it clearly looks like there is an artist’s signature in the top image.
The image set that magic canvas uses to make its images have images that have signatures in them. This doesn’t mean much in terms of copyright or legality on its own, but it does seem … not great? Anyway, then the algorithm gets the idea that “you know, images often have these weird squiggly things in the corner, I’ll try to make something that looks like those squiggles”… and you get this. So the answer to your rhetorical(?) question:
It’s not mine. Is it yours?
… is that it’s nobody’s. It just kinda looks like a bunch of signatures that it’s seen in its (potentially) millions of source images that had signatures. It makes up some sort of nonsense and refines it until is says “yeah, that’s kind of what those other pics look like”. (not to anthropomorphize, but anyway)
@glowforge - do you have a legal statement saying you are granting us use of these images?
While GF may answer you, they don’t officially read this forum, so you might not want to hold your breath on any kind of a reply, and definitely wouldn’t hold my breath on a definitive statement from the legal team. It’s in GF’s best interests to leave it a little broad and vague here, getting in the weeds is asking for nit-picky legal issues (and posts).
Have you contracted with Disney?
I’ll assume that you’re being rhetorical here, but in case you aren’t: Of course not. Come on, they’d have to work out deals with every copyright/trademark holder in the world by your logic. Clearly not possible. Glowforge is a front end to a third-party image generator system (I suspect Stable Diffusion, but they won’t say), so I’m pretty confident that Glowforge has several layers of legal protection. They provide the system, if you ask it to make images that violate trademark and then sell them then that’s on you. Think of it this way: If a bank robber drives a F150 to rob a bank, does the bank blame Ford? It’s a bit of a rough analogy, but it’s sort of accurate here.