How about upgrade everyone to at least have a pass through slot. @dan
Bahahahā¦ what say we donāt torture Dan with 11:59:59PM changes that will never happen.
(hopefully you werenāt being serious, but after months of being on the forums I can say that thereās always some people who think this is a reasonable request).
This is a minor issue, but will the information be only in imperial?
I am sure that most customers still use this old system and the rest of us can convert to metric. Just want to know if I should keep a calculator handy when the reading material arrives
Hm - let me see if I can just post it for everyone to readā¦
That would be epic.
To make things a little more metric
Interesting news! None of it is a deal breaker for me.
Zedās bigger baby, Zedās bigger.
Really good news on the extra Z Depth. Will have to adjust all my current plans to match but that is easy tweaking. Canāt wait!
@Dan that is a very nice compromise. Being able to place a deeper object is so useful, so this really isnāt a bad change at all. As long as the software tells us the working window then this is not a problem at all (I assume it is somewhat similar to how pro video editing works with a āsafe zoneā in the middle where you are allowed to put content).
Lousy day to be out of ālikesā
The 11.5" depth size isnāt a big deal from my perspective. I try to leave a margin on my stuff anyway - just makes me feel better then running a design all the way to the edge and then finding I misaligned the material a hair and Iāve got a defective piece.
The other upside is that most 12x12" Baltic Birch Iāve been getting is only 12" nominally Just got bitten by that in laying out a repetitive job where I wanted multiple pieces - just āthatā close which lost me a whole row of dinner place ācardsā for Thanksgiving. (Couldnāt just scale it because it had slots sized for the birch thickness.)
I thought that is exactly what @dan meant with his comment from below.
I guess to much a finance guy and too little an engineer as Iām not understanding.
Thinking it means that the head doesnāt travel any faster, but the more powerful beam enables the material to burn away faster.
Thatās what youāre getting with the Pro. Overall time savings to complete a project over a Basic will be plus or minus 20%, because it zaps the material away quicker.
āRuns about 20% fasterā suggests throughput to me not necessarily mechanical speed. I take it to mean if job A takes 10 minutes on a Basic that it would take 8 minutes on a Pro.
They can achieve that in a couple of ways - make the mechanics (head speed) faster, increase the power, increase the Y-axis speed (which can be a complicated mix of physical speed, beam focus/width, etc) or increase uptime (improved cooling) so it pauses less.
My guess is theyāre tweaking all of that.
It really doesnāt matter to me if the head travels at 1000 mm/s or 1200 as long as that 10 minute job takes 8, I donāt care about the magic behind it
Perhaps Iām thinking about this wrong, but if the head moves faster, doesnāt that mean that the beam has less time in the material and it was actually cut less?
so to me, the 20% faster only makes sense if it relates to 20% more power in the beam so that a comparable job on the Basic and Pro will have different parameters to achieve the same effect, but the Pro will be 20% faster. (i.e. if the parameters on a Basic are 50% power and 30% speed, the Pro will get the same look by using 50% power and 36% speed)
Yes. Dan confirmed above that the head on the Pro and Basic mechanically are capable of the same speeds. Faster was used ambiguously. Itās a power/optics improvement with the Pro. The head movement is controlled by the S/W in the cloud so canāt really say how that will translate between the two units.
Correct.
Throughput is always a balancing act between speed & power settings. For a given job that I might do at 100% power and 10% speed (not uncommon settings for cuts although I donāt exceed 95% power to keep from shortening the tube life) I could run it faster if the power available was greater and get the same effective power delivered to the material.
I almost never have occasion to run a job as fast as the head can move - itās always power that limits what I can do. So upping the machineās head speed has little effect on the job throughput - power does.
The Pro tube is 12% more powerful than the Basic 45W vs 40W) and it has improved cooling. When the GF runs hot it pauses and waits to cool down before resuming. The Pro has cooling improvements that should lessen the number or duration of pauses. Both should improve throughput.
Now typically itās the raster engrave parts of a job that slow the whole thing down - thatās limited by the Y axis speed as the head goes back & forth like an inkjet printer. If the step between ārowsā can be larger (say by defocusing the beam a tad so itās wider) then you get more throughput too because you wonāt need as many passes to create the image.
Also, if you can improve the acceleration/deceleration rate on the head (improved stepper motors) youāll lose less time in head movement during transitions on direction changes.
Lots of variables they can play with. 20% may be conservative
Iām really looking forward to experimenting with the manual speed and power settings down the roadā¦ (after I have experimented with a few other thingsā¦chuckle!)
Wanna bet we can make the Glowies do things that even @dan and crew never dreamed of?
VERY much looking forward to messing around with the settings and seeing what youāve explained here come to life!
From what you mentioned, do you have a āstandardā speed that you run and then you really only change the power at that speed? I can see myself just setting and leaving the speed at say 70% and then only messing with the power to get the cut/engrave/raster/other terms for the laser interacting with the material.