Texas Themed Camping LED Light Insert

I was looking for a Texas camping themed LED insert and could not find one so i created this through the AI feature. Its about a 20 minute engraving and I love how it turned out. I would like to share this to the design store but they are not currently accepting new designs :frowning:

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Beautiful work :grinning:

They’ll open up designs again, it seems to happen in waves.

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Are you looking to share it or are you looking to try to sell it?

If you’re just looking to share it you can post it on free laser designs.

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I am surprised they would let you sell designs created with AI.

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I’m not. Not after some of the stuff I’ve seen going in there.

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Most of my designs are A.I. based, but after a great many tries (100+) I get near what I want and then modify it to get it not looking so AI-ish, sometimes I might use as many as three in different parts of the design.

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I’m not surprised that they do let people submit AI designs, but I don’t think they should. The catalog is full of derivative designs that are low to mid quality. Throwing more and more uninspiring designs on the catalog doesn’t improve it, IMO.

Of course this is subjective. My idea of quality may not be the same as everyone else’s so perhaps I’m in the minority on this. I can only say that if I were running the catalog it would be sharply pruned and the bar to submit a new design would be much higher than it currently appears to be.

So if you suddenly find yourself saying ā€œwow the overall quality and originality of things on the catalog is really good latelyā€, you’ll know Glowforge hired me to fix the current race-to-the-bottom situation that it’s in.

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At the end of the day, I think it comes down to the fact that many people don’t have even the most basic design skills, and go out and spend all this money on a laser. Glowforge is simply catering to that market - they are a business, after all.

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THIS^^^

I wish.

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I think there is a lot to do with market and pay scale. On one hand if the design is too complicated to do well, or takes several sheets of material, there will be fewer folks making them. Likewise if a complicated piece that takes many times more work to document makes the same income per item sold there will be fewer complicated designs submitted.
If there is a simple shape, like a night light that you can apply many different AI images to, particularly if there is no post processing of the images, you can turn out as many as you can think of, and that is why we see them show up submitted 10 or 20 at a time. Likewise, someone selling finished stuff could have a single display in their store with many options and thus sell lots of the light bases also.
What Glowforge might do is arrange to sell many similar items like that also as varients of one thing and in so doing create less confusion and have several hundred items instead of several thousand.

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To be clear, I think AI tools are cool and image generation systems are cool… I just question whether or not you should be able to profit from images that you pull from them.

IMO, writing a prompt should not grant anyone commercial rights to the resulting image. Especially if you come into it knowing that you want to try to reproduce something you’ve already seen. You are copying someone else’s work, just using a complex system to do it.

The US courts seem to agree with me here because they have largely upheld that you cannot copyright AI generated images. While this doesn’t prevent using those images for profit it does signal some sort of acknowledgment that there’s a difference between fully original work and whatever you get out of these systems.

I’m a big fan of fair use and think that US copyright law is too broad but pulling straight from an AI system and slapping it up on a marketplace seems wrong given how these systems work.

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The basic premise is anything AI-generated cannot be copyrighted, as it was not created by a human.

Individual providers of AI services can have whatever terms they choose, but I don’t think it’s ever been tested in court.

I just always keep in mind, if I am not paying for a service, then I am the product ultimately being sold…

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Lets take a look on the other side. There is a nice wall around the corner, made out of rock such as the one I helped build in Coconut Grove. A person walking down that street takes a photo of that wall, including a secret spot that one could leave a message, I know it’s there but very few others, but that is the piece of wall in the photo. I am using that image as part of a 3d stuff such as one of those buildings that I am selling the finished building. I then get sued for copyright violation because no two bits of such a wall are the same. I built part of that wall but I cannot sue him for taking the photograph.

The result is insanity. Unless everything is photos of stuff in your neighborhood put together then you could be using someone else’s copyrghted material. However, if I use A.I. to create that wall it will not be specifically someone else’s photo of a wall and presumibly the same A.I. will not give anyone else the exact same wall. Therefore, If I modify it further, I have still done work that should be mine, but I would prefer not to get anywhere near that morasse.
The hype is only exceeded by the misunderstanding of what A.I. even is. and the craziness is only growing. As a tool, it is like any other tool. It can be used for good or bad

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Coconut grove here?

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Just south of Miami, oldest place in the area. Most interesting story.

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