I have room in the house, but it’s such so loud and smelly. It’s like someone running a vacuum in the other room for hours at a time. Also it’s difficult to prep material outside with a table saw, then bring it in, then take it back out to paint.
I put my windows up very high so it would be very difficult to reach by anyone. There’s a dehumidifier, and an AC, and the entire thing is very sealed so I hope I can thwart the humidity.
Any advice for the walls? I have Rockwool to go between the studs, but I need something to cover all of that and the wiring. I’m so far into this thing that I might as well do something stylish for the walls. I’m not much of an interior decorator, though. I can get reclaimed redwood in all kinds of lengths for a “reclaimed” wall kind of look. I can’t stomach buying plastic sheething board, or even that fake wood-stuff. Sheetrock would be nice, but just a giant pain in the ass. I would probably just hire that out.
One of the things that’s important to me is to have places to showcase items that I designed. Like, a few different backdrops to show something against white, against brick, whatever. Was going to make some kind of Olan Mills/K-Mart/Uncle Rico photography backdrop/barndoor panel that I could slide in and out on a rail. I didn’t want to be stuck with whatever I put on the walls.
With a massive French-cleat system going up on one of the long walls, I’m inclined to just cover it with 1/8" plywood and leave it unpainted, since it would be mostly covered with stuff.
Just in case anybody’s wondering, everything you’re seeing here puts the project just past $8000 for materials. The labor (me) was free. I’ll be over $10k before this is over.
The AC I’m getting does 2.1 pints per hour, right out the back. The dehumidifiers I use in the house are more like 2 pints/week! I have the Elgato Eve homekit sensors around the house, so I keep tabs on the humidity levels. I’ve had so many things deteriorate in this air when I used to leave the windows open more often. I’ll see how the AC goes.
If you go sheetrock you might want to use a trick I saw once in a barn/studio. The person who did it simply slapped some kind of nicely finished board (wide lattice?) over the joints. If you have access to a lot of reclaimed wood, you should be able to figure out a pattern that’s backed by sheetrock and just happens to have wood pieces where needed. Which might also play nicely into the display background thing.
His recommendation is two layers of 5/8" drywall, separated by acoustic caulking to provide an air gap. Apparently it works better than rockwool at a lower price point (but it appears you’ve already got the rockwool installed, so…)
Thanks, yeah. I’m going to wait and see if I can enclose the entire thing.
That infeed/outfeed roller I’m using has 14" of vertical adjustment. I wanted to put the GF and CNC on the same cart, and just adjust the roller up and down as needed. However, the shapeoko is 16" tall, so if it were on the bottom and glowforge/air filter on top, there wouldn’t be enough vertical travel in the roller to reach both of their beds.
If the GF were on bottom, and CNC on top then I couldn’t open the top of the GF.
Looks like I have to build two enclosures, or some kind of “mini-room” inside of the shop for everything. I really want to focus on the sound, and dust. The air conditioner I picked up is only 41db, the dust collector is 59db. The dewalt router must be insanely loud in comparison. Also the GF has plenty of noise.
Would take less time/materials to just build the two of them into their own partition with the air conditioner venting directly inside. My AC is not really for me, it’s for the GF’s ambient temperature. In my house I don’t really use the AC, but had to turn it on several times when using the GF because it complained. This is Hawaii, and it stays between 70-80 year-round with a little breeze so generally AC is not needed. If I put the GF inside of an enclosure, heat would be a big issue pretty quickly.
Thanks for your help, I have some things to think about…
I’ve watched this a couple of times now. Rockwool costs $51 for 60sq ft, which is 85 cents/sq ft. The rockwool is fireproof, moldproof, and it’s insulation. The drywall doesn’t insulate at all, and at $23/sheet comes in at 72 cents/sq ft. But if you’re doubling it up, that’s $1.44/sq ft. Plus the acoustic glue cost would put it over the top. I like the Rockwool because it’s not fiberglass.
If you wanted to go BIG you could put rockwool in the wall, and then double-up your sheetrock.
Really nice project!
In my limited area I found the full extension HD glides that allow me to slide the laser under the bench top to be very useful.
I built it in prep for eventual shipment, but before the glowforge came I used it for a slide-away desktop/working surface. That’s when it occurred to me I could easily increase the working surface available to me in a limited area. It only takes a couple of inches depth under an existing bench top. Pull it out when needed, and instantly double available surface area. It doesn’t matter how much surface I have, it all gets overloaded.
The other feature I’m fond of is the slat wall. Besides all of the tool storage it provides, it is asthetically pleasing.
Your cleat wall will serve you well.
So nice to be able to design your shop area from the ground up! Again, nicely done.
Thank You! Do you think if I installed those HD glides under the Shapeoko so that I could pull the Glowforge and (future) air filter out to use the pass through slot (Glowforge turned sideways) and that the Shapeoko (150lbs) would be enough to counterweight? Perhaps a “leg” is mounted on a frame that’s on the slides, then the leg could just roll back and forth also. Like a transformer! I like it!
Only other solution I can think of for both of them to occupy the same footprint is if the glowforge just simply sits on top, not enclosed. But I’m trying to quiet it down, so I’m not sure how to enclose it, and provide AC. I think I gotta think about a “quiet” room haha. What happens in the quiet room, stays in the quiet room.
I’m not sure enclosing is the way to go. If you put some kind of sound absorber where the supports aren’t, and enclose the ducting in something absorbtive you’ll be a big part of the way there. And maybe something between the table and the floor…
The nice thing about those slideouts, btw, is that they slide back in often enough that they can’t become just more permanently filled horizontal space.
Just venting here. I’m trying to come up with some clever way of having the GF and the CNC across from each other so that their “pass thru” slots align, but I was also trying to store 8ft+ pieces of stock underneath the machines. I hate to lift things over the glowforge, because I’m always afraid of breaking that glass. So that’s why I don’t want to store material over the machines, but rather under. But if it’s under, then I can’t stand in front of the machines. Maybe I’m overthinking it, but I have very little room inside to make all of this work.