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Is speed 1000 on the Pros the same as 1000 on the basics? Hopefully it is, as it would make sharing settings between pros and basic very frustrating.

As an exercise, ā€œDescribe in a measurement other than feet and inches, the length of the Harvard bridgeā€

I’m sure there are a few here who know both answers.

According to @dan the speed and power settings up to 100 are the same. The difference in the Pro is that full is all 45W on the Pro vs 40W on the basic. That way settings can be shared between models up to Full.

However, the Pro was supposed to be faster so it’s hard to see that the zooms are equivalent unless that’s only on Full power operations.

BTW, smoots are an ISO standard measurement now.

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Do you know the other unit of measure?

In real measurements, .4mi or in those funny units the greatly misled use 1.7018m * 364.4 smoots + - 1 ear. :wink:

Although usually reported as + 1 ear it’s really + or - to reflect the uncertainty of measurements in general. Interesting that the ear was included as it could not have actually been used - they rolled Smoot head over heels. With his ears on the side of his head they couldn’t be additive to the length when rolled the way he was.

Yes, it’s the same.

I’m sorry, I don’t remember the smoot:furlong ratio.

The Pro cuts faster by virtue of being higher power. (In some cases it also engraves faster, although in most cases power isn’t the limiting factor to engrave speed). Since speed and power have a nonlinear relationship that varies by material, it will be a little different from material to material, but here’s an example. I took a print my kids did last week (a sign that said ā€œpendant peopleā€ for a school project where they were selling pendants). I sent it to a basic and to a pro. You can see the cut time estimates.


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The other unit of measure is the HBU.
The Harvard Bridge is 1 ā€œHarvard Bridge Unitā€ Long.

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0.00863636363

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I don’t understand how that works. If power less than or equal to 100 pews is the same and if speeds all the way up to 1000 zooms is the same so a 90/500 cut is reproducible for both and thus equivalent, then how does Full/500 get faster unless the zooms are not the same? For a given speed the Pro should cut deeper allowing a Pro to have a faster speed used than a basic but Full/500 shouldn’t be any faster on a Pro than a Basic, just deeper unless 500 zooms is faster on a Pro.

For any cuts at less than max speed, then I understand the Pro would be faster because you could bump up the speed since the power allows deeper cutting so for a given thickness you can use less power or more speed. I guess to some extent it’s an edge case where you’re cutting at max speed - like thin leather, paper, etc so a Pro might not even use Full power.

Or am I just confused? :slightly_smiling_face:

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From what I remember of proofgrade settings, most cuts are done in ā€œfull powerā€ mode. Upping that would let you cut at a higher speed.

Agree.

I was just questioning the ā€œfull power cuts fasterā€. Really, it’s full power allows faster speeds to be used. So it’s only my edge case examples where we’re using Full power and max speed that we won’t see faster cuts - in that case it is likely we’ll need to dial down the power on the Pro because Full Pro is more pews than Full Basic. And if we do that, then the Pro will actually cut slower since 100 pews is less power than Full Basic.

So generally Pro cuts can be faster but there is a use case where the Pro will cut slower.

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The pro is supposed to be able to move faster as well eventually due to the invisible upgraded motion components.

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Then they’ll have to add more zoom units to the Pro so the power & zoom settings below 100/1000 can be shared between the two models. The Pro scale may need to go to 1100 or 1200.

Yes I believe that is the plan. Turn it up to 12 … hundred.

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All power settings of 100 or below are the same between Pro and Basic. Full power setting is greater than 100 on both machines, with full power for Pro being greater by X% over full power for the Basic. (BTW: at one point the equivalent settings were quoted in a post as 1-99, but it is 1-100 power settings that are common between the two machines.)

The materials settings still use 1-99 and use 100 to represent full. It is just the GFUI that changes it to 1-100 and full.

I agree. That’s what causes edge cases where Pros may be slower. Because there’s no setting of anything between 100 and Full, something that works with the Basic at 500/Full may over burn at a Pro’s 500/Full and because there’s no 600 for cuts (or 1100+ for engraves). So then you’ll need to do 100 power on the Pro which is less power than Full on either machine, hence need to slow down the Pro to get the same delivered ā€œlasernessā€.

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I thought the linear motion system was supposed to be faster in the Pro as well, and read as much in official documentation yesterday.

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