What happened to the engraving settings? (Floyd Steinberg is missing!)


#1

There used to be Floyd Steinberg and other settings for engraving images. Now there’s only “Convert to Dots” “Convert to Pattern” and “Vary Power”. I can’t seem to get any of these to give me the same results when engraving onto granite that I was able to achieve just a few days ago.

Is there any way to get these settings back? Please help as I have some jobs that I need to finish this weekend!


#2

I don’t know what the staff is going to say but I will point out that if there is a dithering treatment that you really like you can usually find it in a program like Inkscape or such and apply it before submitting it to the GFUI.


#3

Yeah, I know how to do it before importing to GF. However the actual settings and output has changed greatly over the last few days.


#4

But then you’re applying a dither to a dither when the GFUI’s engraves take over no?


#5

I’m not 100% sure, but I think they just changed the names to make them more relevant to people who don’t know what dithering is.

I think “Convert to Dots” is the Floyd-Steinberg and “Convert to Pattern” is the ordered dither.


#6

I thought “convert to dots” was the new name for the old F-S. I didn’t really get a chance to use the old settings before the UI was updated, so I can’t say personally whether the capabilities have improved or been reduced. It seems that to own a Glowforge is to get used to suddenly having to learn new settings, which is kind of a bummer if you’ve spent a bunch of time experimenting to dial everything in just right.


#7

But then you’re applying a dither to a dither when the GFUI’s engraves take over no?

Yeah, honestly it does not look good. Very annoyed that it’s changed so much :frowning:


#8

I would think it would be additive and no good would come from that. If I pre-treated a photo I’d not add any type in the GFUI. One big advantage of doing it beforehand it that some packages give you a lot of artistic elbow room so to speak.


#9

I’m of two minds on this. On the one hand, they need to work things out, but on the other, yeah, it can be a pain and I’ll be glad when things don’t change as often or as much.


#10

I believe the “Convert to Dots” is still the Floyd Steinberg dithering algorithm.

FWIW, the Photoshop diffusion dithering is a Floyd Steinberg variation, that is widely considered better than the original. Of course, I’m sure that’s up to interpretation.


#11

The other thing I’ve noticed lately is that the “Preparing your Design” step takes far longer that it used to… anybody else seen this?


#12

Having been on the other side of support needs, presenting multiple issues in one request isn’t always the best thing. Might I suggest you start a new thread for that?


#13

seems like it would be less annoying if they had more comprehensive notes about what just changed. if the convert to dots is what FS used to be, a single bullet point in some update notes would make a big difference.


#14

Obviously FS was too technical so they had to dumb it down and obscure it like every other feature until nobody knows what it does exactly.


#15

Pehaps a little more detail here would have been helpful to existing users.


#16

Thanks for that link! I didn’t know they had a feed for this stuff.


#17

Joe is correct - just the name changed.


#18