Etching two-layer plastic: What's the right way?

I’ve been trying to create some signs using two-layer plastic (not a Proofgrade product) on a Glowforge Pro. The plastic has a white core with a thin colored layer on top. The top layer is designed to be etched away, producing a white design and leaving the colored layer as the background.

My problem is: As the etching proceeds, some residue seems to be left behind on the etched (white) areas, leaving it with a dark (and uneven) tinge. The wider the etched area, the worse the problem becomes.

I’ve experimented with a variety of settings (for example: speed 250 with 12% power, speed 115 with 1% power, and many combinations in between) and various engraving resolutions. But no combination has given me a clean etch. I have found that slower speed and higher resolution gives better results than higher speed and lower resolution, but it’s still not great.

I have tried multiple passes, but that just seems to melt the dark residue in place, rather than removing it.

Is this a material that just won’t work on Glowforge? Should I be investing in a CNC machine instead?

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You can get great results on two ply acrylic and over the years people have shared their methods. One way is to do a second engraving pass at high speed to burn away the debris.

I am curious about your settings. Why are you engraving at such a slow speed and such low power?

I am going to move this post to Beyond the Manual so settings can be discussed.

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Is the product two ply acrylic, or acrylic with a UV print layer?

For tri layer acrylic from Johnson Plastics, I used 1000/25/225 to remove the top layer and 1000/70/225 to remove both the 1st and 2nd layers.

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When I tried higher speeds at higher power, it just seemed to make the problem worse.

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What is the actual material? There are lots of threads about 2 color or 2 ply acrylic if you utilize the search function. Here is one:

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Here is another example. What would help us help you is if you were specific about the material you are using. What, exactly, is it?

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One of the products is this (acrylic): https://www.etsy.com/listing/776434595/laserable-acrylic-sheet-2-tone-multiple

The other is this (ABS): Amazon.com: M METERXITY 6-Pack Engraving Blank Materials Double Color 7x11 Inch, 1.3mm Thick ABS Plastic Sheet Yard Signs Name Plate for Door/Office/Home/Conference/Hotel/DIY Carving[Sky Blue/White] : Industrial & Scientific

Both claim to be laserable.

I will try the higher speed (1000) and see what results I get.

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I haven’t had any issues engraving the top material. I’ve got two settings I’ve gotten out of the forum here, one for a really slow, but clean engrave at low power and high dpi, the other for a faster one with more power. Both work fine. To remove the residue of the higher speed, I used to just do a fast pass with lower power. If you’re having an issue with the residue blowing and burning, then maybe you should mask it with a paper masking or the dish soap method that people use?

I think this is where i first got my settings and they worked great, just slow because i was doing a huge piece:

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Thank you for your suggestions! My latest experiments are bearing good results.

It seems the mistakes I was making were:

  • Etching with the protective film on. The film seems to be the main contributing factor to the discoloration I was seeing.
  • Etching too slowly/deeply. With the settings you recommended, I see that the laser barely scratches the surface, so to speak. This produces a much more consistent and even result on the etched area. In my earlier attempts, I was really cutting a fairly deep groove into the plastic.

My test cuts on ABS sheets:

That middle one on my last test (1000/25%/225/2x) looks darn near perfect! Thank you again!

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On my other material (acrylic), I’m finding I need 1000/25%/225/4x to get similar results. But it’s looking great!

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Oh, that film would do it. You’re supposed to remove plastic film before engraving. Some of the companies I ordered from had instructions to remove the film before engraving and cutting because of the melting.

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