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That’s the thing. They don’t do it now, but there are a lot of companies that take a lot of liberties until they’re caught.

Couple weeks ago there was an app that made you look like anime going around. It was quickly found that it was grabbing anything it could on your phone and sending that info back home. There were tons of warnings on Facebook and message boards, and people were still installing it after those warnings.

Alexa and Cortana listen to everything that’s said constantly. Who knows to what extent they’re caching keywords etc.

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i’m pretty sure most of the appliance voice assistants specifically mention doing local only kw listening then dialling in. it’d be easy enough to check bandwidth logs for evidence.

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yeah thats why I said ‘caching’. :wink:

just for fun lol

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sure, the way you put it just sounded too conspiratorial for my tastes :V

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If I wanted to get around this id just hold onto all the data I needed to send, and attach it to the payload the next time a call home is initiated by the user. Or play it off as diagnostic data. or reference ids with counts. Theres a lot of ways to make data like that almost untraceable.

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sure, but it’s just going to get analyzed more and more and if it’s there, i’m convinced it’ll be outed.

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Have multiple different methods of encrypting and storing data in outgoing streams with an invisible key designating which method was used so pattern identification fails on detecting anything unless you have a massive store of hundreds/thousands of requests to analyze simultaneously. even then it could just be played off as part of a container

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Remind me to stay on your good side

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given amazon’s software experience thus far i’m not expecting cia level opsec from them

Actually incandescent filaments do age like that. The gas inside the glass is there to help keep the filament from degrading too quickly and it can out gas over time. They are just operated at lower extremes and have a longer history of innovation.

But that might be picking nits a bit. :wink:

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Ummmm…

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Maybe they fail due to leakage but they don’t get noticeably dimmer over time like lasers and florescent tubes, which is what my point was. They work fine up until they suddenly don’t, which is not the way lasers normally fail.

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Amazon runs some of the biggest data stores in the world, and the largest marketplace, and is responsible for keeping billions of people’s data secure. They have an amazing library of code available to them. Something like this is peanuts. Nowhere near CIA level stuff. Their work is scary. Same with NSA

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yeah, i’m aware of what they do.

Sure they do, just not as noticeable. But that was why I mentioned the part about nitpicking. :wink:

Light bulbs have the advantage of 200 years of innovation. In another 100 years the laser tube might be as robust.

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Did you see this strip this week? Funny.

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Mine just says…" The Director will see you now ! "

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